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Offline joshy

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Bluetooth going to take over Zigbee?
« on: July 22, 2014, 07:28:54 pm »
Have read some articles about BLE, looks like bluetooth have more advantages than Zigbee. interference, energy consumption, popularity, etc.
Looks like a good time for almond+ to have BLE in

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Re: Bluetooth going to take over Zigbee?
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2014, 10:22:54 pm »
Not quite true.
Bluetooth for one doesn't have any kind of mesh networking support, although Bluetooth 4.1 kind of adds support for it, but it's not the same as what's being used for ZigBee or Z-Wave.
It's also not as easy to add/pair new devices/sensors, as you need to enter a pin code rather than use the push button system in place for ZigBee and Z-Wave.
Energy consumptions is about the same, so you won't see any difference here either.
As for popularity, BLE is still fairly new, but because Apple and Google supports it in their mobile devices, there's a lot more hype about the standard.
ZigBee has a few issues, for example multiple profiles which is causing some issues with regards to what works with what. On top of that, the ZigBee alliance doesn't have as strict standards as the Z-Wave alliance, so some companies are technically using ZigBee but add an additional layer of software which means that their sensors don't work with other gateways.
In short, home automation is still quite messy and there's no winning standard.
Bluetooth and BLE is great for point to point communication, but it's not really designed for home automation networks.

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Re: Bluetooth going to take over Zigbee?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2014, 08:00:56 pm »
Is there any way to plug something like this -> http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/bluetooth-dongle-bluetooth-4-1-usb_1970372947.html into the A+ and have A+ act as host and read from/write to BLE peripherals?  Bonus - have a securifi branded BLE dongle designed for Almond+ :)

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Re: Bluetooth going to take over Zigbee?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2014, 12:59:56 am »
We might be able to add support for it down the road, but please don't expect this until next year as we have so many other things to work on.
Keep in mind that not only would we have to create a new UI for adding devices, as Bluetooth is using PIN codes instead of push buttons for pairing, we'd also have to write a Bluetooth HA engine and integrate it with everything else, plus work out a way to discover what kind of device it is that has been connected and then make it appear properly in our UI's.
This is not a small task and will take at least a couple of months to get to basic usability level.

 

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