Video from CEDIA

[mparadis]

Showing the new Securifi Tap http://www.ravepubs.com/rave-video/cedia-2016-securifi-feautures-almond-3-smart-home-wi-fi-router-with-touch-screen/

[d.kiran]

I wonder how they accomplished using the tap as a toggle. AFAIK, it can't be done with the current rules interface.

[mparadis]

Dunno but I like the idea of one tap for one thing, two taps for another, etc etc. The Fibaro system recently released a very similar though very unaesthetic button. http://www.fibaro.com/en/the-fibaro-system/the-button but I think it is pretty expensive for a button. Sounds like these taps will be 3 for $30 which is an awesome price point.

[Ashok]

@ d.kiran,

I wonder how they accomplished using the tap as a toggle. AFAIK, it can't be done with the current rules interface.

It is a Securifi Button, which is yet to be released along with the Almond 3 and support is not added yet for other products.

[TangoBravo]

Here's to hoping that the ability to act as a toggle is put into the general firmware, not just specifically for the "Tap".   I'd love to be able to do this with my Dash buttons.... but the current firmware, the logic doesn't allow it even if the rules are set up accordingly.  Apparently, the logic cannot overlap.

[mparadis]

@ tangobravo what do you mean? As an example... One rule: If Dash button is active (which is similar to the tap function) AND the light is off then turn on light. Second rule: If Dash button is active AND the light is on then turn light off. Should work with Dash since it is a very quick connection and disconnection. I don't use this since I don't have enough of a need for it right now (not with a dash button, which kind of stands out) but would certainly have some functions for the tap.

[fillibar]

Actually I have run into issues with the Dash in that exact scenario.
The problem is the Active state. Here is what happens:
You press the Dash and it becomes active. The light is off.
Rule check occurs (I do not know how often they check). Dash is active, light is off, so it turns it on. Yippee!!!
But then it performs another Rule check... Dash is still active (lowest grace period is 1 minute) and light is on, so it turns it on.
So on and so forth, you get a blinking light until the Dash is inactive.

You need to build additional checking, or a delay in that would prevent the overlap. Or use two Dash buttons, one on, one off.

[mparadis]

Ahh okay bummer. Seems like its missing the when added and when removed functions then.

[fillibar]

Correct. Even just an immediate "Joined" event, singular, until the device has left again would solve it.