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Sensors and Home Automation => Home automation => Topic started by: johnyeros on July 12, 2014, 01:23:29 am

Title: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: johnyeros on July 12, 2014, 01:23:29 am
I have one of these Schlage FE599 z-Wave lock..
Manual: http://www.smarthome.com/manuals/51204-man.pdf

I tried to pair it. I found instruction to pair as:

Press SCHLAGE Button
Enter programming code
WAIT for 3 beep/blink
Press SCHLAGE button
Press 0

The lock goes into pairing mode as the SCHLAGE logo light up orange and stays there.. But the almond+ can't find it. I literally brought the router next to the lock.. The first time I did it, it seems like it found it but then it just stays there trying to pair... but it never work. And now I can't seems to get it to work at all. Please help


Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: LGNilsson on July 12, 2014, 01:58:30 am
Can you try to remove the lock and then re-add it to see if this changes anything.
Sometimes Z-Wave devices seem to have be removed once before they can be added and we're not sure why they have this behaviour.
In your case this might be even more true, since you say it seemed like it found it the first time, so something might've gone a bit wrong in the pairing process.
If that doesn't help, I'll get someone from the software team to try and figure out what's going on.
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: johnyeros on July 12, 2014, 02:11:05 am
There was sensor on almond+ screen. It was never added. I even replace the 9V battery just to be sure but I test the one inside and it seems to be ok.
I did pick "remove all sensor" from almond+ and that took a while.

It this what you meant?
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: LGNilsson on July 12, 2014, 02:28:42 am
No, that's not what I meant, that clears out all sensors associated with the Almond+.

What you want to do is tap on Add Sensor, then Remove. Now set the lock in remove mode and you should see a message on the LCD that says "Unknown sensor removed" or something along those lines.
Then try to add the lock again.
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: johnyeros on July 12, 2014, 09:20:41 am
What i meant previously is that there was NO SENSOR on the sensor screen. The process didn't work for me and I didn't have any sensor listed on Almond+ screen. Still no luck. adding it  :(
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: johnyeros on July 12, 2014, 09:57:32 am
I remove the battery from the Schlage lock and did a factory reset just in case.

After the reset here is what I did.

Almond+ was next to lock, hit add sensor
Hit schlage button
Enter Programming Code
Hit schlage button again
Hit 0
My schlage button flashing red, like it's waiting to pair.. after a while my schlage beep with nothing being pair. The router still searching..

I restart this whole process with doing the search on Almond+ after I put lock in pairing mode .. still nothing.

Also did this process with the door lock and unlock, still not luck..

Has anybody report success with this lock or similar schlage lock yet?

I look at the micasa verde example and I think I haven't missed anything: http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Schlage_Lock#Resetting_a_Schlage_Lock
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: LGNilsson on July 12, 2014, 10:04:44 am
That fine, but did you try to do a remove first, then add, as per my instructions above?

We've got the lock and the software team has added support for it, as a matter of fact, we ordered it when I was over at CES in January and I could pair the lock back then, it just didn't do anything beyond pairing and being detected as a lock back then. We know it works, so something odd is going on here.
I presume it's a brand new lock that has never been paired to another Z-Wave controller before?

Resetting the lock doesn't reset the Z-Wave module, so that won't help you, hence my instructions above about removing it first, then trying to add it, as this is the only way you can reset the Z-Wave module in the lock.
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: johnyeros on July 12, 2014, 11:21:50 am
Yes it's a brand new lock and i never pair it before.

I understand what you're talking about now.

I tried removing it.

The instruction to set the lock itself to remove is the same as pairing. (let me know if this is correct)

Enter PC, schlage, 0.

I did that but almond didn't found anything to remove either.

Afterward I tried adding it, same problem.



Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: LGNilsson on July 12, 2014, 11:29:17 am
I understand that, but I think you need to re-read my instructions.

Tap on Add Sensor in the main LCD UI.
Tap on Remove. By doing so, the Almond+ goes into remove sensor mode.
Follow the instructions in the lock manual on how to remove the lock from a gateway.
You should see a message on the LCD saying something like "Unknown sensor removed"

Next tap on add and try to add the lock again.

This may or may not help.

If not, then I'm afraid you'll have to wait until Monday and I'll get someone from the software team to help figure out what's going on.

As a side note, Z-Wave sensors have to be removed this way, as otherwise they're tied to the gateway and can't be used with other gateways.
We've implemented a similar feature to the Vera products, so we can actually reset sensors that have been previously associated with another gateway by following the steps above.
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: johnyeros on July 12, 2014, 11:36:05 am
Yes I edited my reply above. Please let  your team know monday. I think i'm doing this right.
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: LGNilsson on July 12, 2014, 11:52:37 am
Ok, one last question, are you sure the Z-Wave module in the lock is 1. inserted properly and 2. for the same frequency as your Almond+?
These are the only two options I can think of why it shouldn't show up when you try to remove it, unless the module has been damaged somehow and isn't working.
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: johnyeros on July 14, 2014, 11:11:28 am
As I was looking for the information you asked for: I did found out mine was the FE599 model :P. It's the BE369 Model and yes it's the USA version which I assume have the frequency I needed.
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: LGNilsson on July 14, 2014, 12:00:17 pm
Right. It seems Schalge might clearly enough, do things differently in terms of how they're associated depending on the model of lock, as we have one other backers with problems getting his Schlage lock associated.
If I could get someone from our software team to remote desktop with you to have a look at things, would this be ok with you?
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: johnyeros on July 14, 2014, 01:52:58 pm
Remote desktop to check the almond+ router? Yes that would be fine. What time do you guys work till ? I'm in EST timezone
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: brianstall on July 20, 2014, 12:04:35 am
Hello,
I am curious what the resolution was to this Schlage lock?  I have the BE369.  It shows up as a sensor and I assume I have it paired right because it shows up, but sadly it does nothing.   When I click unlock from the Almond + it shows processing, but goes nowhere.  The app shows unlocked all the time - even when locked and the remote login does show what I have right.  The Ip login shows locked.  Slightly confused I would say.  I understand that this may not be a supported device yet, but johnyeros did say he had that lock.  Any help would be grand.
Thanks for letting me hijack and ask if this has been resolved yet.
Brian
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: LGNilsson on July 20, 2014, 12:20:24 am
That's strange as he just got his lock working.
The problem in this case was that he missed the fact that the lock has two sets of batteries, but you appear to have managed to associate your lock.

Is the issue you're having with the local web UI or the connect.securifi.com website?
If so, can you try controlling the lock via the LCD UI and does it work there?
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: johnyeros on July 20, 2014, 07:01:29 pm
Been working with lars and I found out problem was the 3 AA was dead and I replaced them and afterward I was able to add :).

I got my lock (actually BE369) to work, but sometime when i tried to unlock/lock it stock at processing.
So far I have removed and added it back it and it seems to be working but it's spotty. I'm only 20 feet away from the lock.


Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: brianstall on July 21, 2014, 11:24:06 am
My problem is that it doesn't control it at all.  That would be the main problem.  The second issue is that the separate interfaces don't show that the lock is locked or unlocked accurately and consistently.  The app always shows its unlocked and doesn't do anything to control it.  The Web UI shows whatever it is but tries to process and just sits there.  The ip login shows correctly but doesn't do much.  Lastly, the Almond + itself seems the best, but it has never locked it.  Tomorrow, I will try and remove it and reconnect it and see if I can get it to work.  It'll be too late when I get home tonight.
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: johnyeros on July 22, 2014, 10:04:01 am
You have exactly all similars problem I have. IT's frustrating. I been emailing lars.
I hope his team look at this and fix these thing. A basic thing like action to lock & unlock should work perfectly along with lock status.. These little things really need to be working flawlessly before we start talking about scence and real automation stuff.
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: brianstall on August 25, 2014, 05:32:27 pm
I know it has been a while for this post, but the last update seems to have given me control over my lock-sort of.  It allows me to send the code to the lock.  Being that I have this particular lock I still have to twist the deadbolt, but it does send the command.  The only thing on this particular lock is that it might be hard to report the correct status whether locked or unlocked.  It looks like the ui reports the next option after it is pressed.  But at least it sends the code and I am happy.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: LGNilsson on August 28, 2014, 01:53:40 am
We're working on fixing the locked/unlocked status and we're aware it's an urgent issue that needs to be resolved.
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: JesseD on September 01, 2014, 10:11:06 pm
I have the FE599 model and was going to add it to the A+ but I was considering holding off until some of the bugs get hashed out.
For those of you that got their lock connected to the Almond+, was there ONLY an option to LOCK/UNLOCK?  Was there an option to assign access codes to users?

THis is KEY for me and I want to know what option I have if I add it to the A+ before I actually do or else Ill lose the functionality of the lock

THanks in advance!!!!
Title: Re: Help please with Schlage FE599 Zwave lock
Post by: LGNilsson on September 02, 2014, 11:14:12 pm
We have support for user pins, but right now there's no way to assign names to pins.
We'll have proper lock/unlock status in the next firmware release which we're hoping to have out next week.