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Sensors and Home Automation => Home automation => Topic started by: mobelos on July 22, 2014, 04:25:26 pm
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Just got my fire alarm paired. Seems to work on the router UI but says not supported on the web portal. Any others play with this sensor yet?
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Wow, that's interesting, as I don't think we've tested that specific product.
I'll talk to the software team and make sure we get it into the connect site as well.
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Awesome. Yeah it is a great value only 39.95 at Lowes and it does both co2 and smoke detector. It showed up as a smoke detector on the UI. Thanks
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Anyone have the Model number on this?
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I want to say it is this:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_505521-347-ZCOMBO_0__
The Lowe's down the street from me has a several, but it's in an end cap area, not in the HA nor the fire alarm aisles, whereas another Lowe's had one near the Iris display
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I'm very reluctant to buy any of the Lowe's Iris products. I bought a door/window sensor (Wish I'd checked this site first) and it didn't work, even with claims on the Lowe's website saying it works with non-iris devices.
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The smoke alarm is Z-Wave, not ZigBee and it's made by First Alert and you can buy them elsewhere too.
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Lars is correct. The alarm is made by First Alert and the packaging clearly states that it is a Z-Wave product.
Lowe's just happens to be a brick and mortar that carries these products and they advertise it works with their own Iris system.
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I'm tempted to go out and buy one.
Anyway trying to get ideas for what other devices I could invest in, I found this discussion thread (http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=16439.0) on micasaverde that had a lot of technical information about this particular CO2/Smoke Alarm.
Maybe some of it can be useful to Securifi's HA/Z-Wave team?
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In-case anyone is looking to grab these
Lowe's is currently taking an extra $10 off purchases $50 or more with coupon code 470000000090830.
I just got 2 for $75 tax included.
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Oooh! Price adjustment time!
I ended up buying one, but discovered my house uses wired sensors, so that if one goes off, they all do. I'm torn whether I should mount it beside an existing wired/non-z-wave sensor, or wait until a wired z-wave sensor is available to completely replace my current ones.
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I'm waiting for wired sensors. That way, if any detector in the house detects smoke, the one connected to the Almond can alert me.
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Did these wind up getting supported in the web UI? I'm looking at buying a few to replace an my existing alarms.
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We've bought a couple of these and we'll make sure we support the CO part as well as right now I think they might only work as smoke alarms, but I'm not 100% sure. And of course we'll support them in all UI's.
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I'm wondering if anyone has tried the first alert zsmoke or zcombo, which are sold at Lowe's and are said to work with iris? I know other iris branded sensors are not supported but I would like to get these smoke and smoke/carbon monoxide detectors. I may get them and try them anyway but if someone has tried them and can save me the hassle that would be great. Thanks in advance!
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Please see this thread for more info:
http://forum.securifi.com/index.php/topic,1263.0.html
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Topics merged
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Is there any more news on if the zsmoke works well or not? I need to buy some new smoke detectors and would like to get these if they work well.
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Is there any more news on if the zsmoke works well or not? I need to buy some new smoke detectors and would like to get these if they work well.
Well I can tell you they paired within seconds to the almond+ and have remained connected and reporting their battery life. I have not had any fires or Carbon Monoxide emergencies in my home, but when I do I will let everyone know if I am still alive :-)
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Any update on this? I know several firmwares have been posted since this topic started. Just curious if CO part is working yet and what actually happens when triggered. Is it like the door sensors which just show open / closed or what? Thanks!
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Right now, nothing much happens. I don't think smoke alarms are integrated into the rules yet, but once they are, the idea would be that you can trigger other sensors.
Also, once the notifications is released, you'll get a push notification on your phone that the smoke alarm has been triggered.
What else would you guys want in terms of features? Not that I'm promising anything here, but it would be good to know what we should consider to do.
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Not sure if it is possible with all sensors, but Fibaros can (According to their marketing material) show levels of smoke, so could be used to for example detect if someone is smoking in the house.
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Notifications and as a trigger is the most basic. It would be good if the ecosystem could detect the difference between the CO portion and the Smoke portion of the detector. As a basic comment for notifications, I'd love to see different notifications, so I could setup certain things to trigger a notification that is red (like a smoke alarm) and ones that are blue (door alarm) etc etc etc or something that distinguishes them from a glance so you can quickly see what the issue is. (not an app developer SO I have no idea if that can happen :P)
Also, I'm not sure it is possible for alarm in the sensor to be triggered as an action as well. For example, if my detector goes off in the basement but I am in bed with the phone on silent, can it trigger the alarm in the detector in my bedroom as well. Thus replacing the need for a separate siren. I don't know that it is possible just an idea.
Also, if the battery status could trigger an alarm as well, so when the battery is down to x% notify me. As far Eldaria reported for the level of smoke, that is undoubtedly based on the detectors' abilities, would certainly be a neat addition. Sounds like a lot of implementation though.
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I'm having a problem with mine. The alarm paired just fine, but when I went and checked the status on the LCD screen it stated smoke detected. I've tried removing and repairing, and rebooting the almond. Checked the detector and it detects smoke when tested. It's been about 5 hours and still states smoke detected. Anybody have any ideas on how to fix this, or is it a bad detector?
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I have the Lowes smoke/CO combo, but right now it seems that only the smoke portion is supported as that is all it shows up as. Also, depending on the UI, some show it as an unsupported device still.
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We did get one of the combo ones, but it was sadly damaged in transit when we sent it to our office in India :-\
We're going to have to get hold of another one, but I don't know when that'll be.
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Just checking since I'm getting different readings on different UI's. On the LCD it says smoke detected, Local web UI states it's OK, connect.securifi shows a bulls-eye. So it looks like it might just be due to it not being fully supported yet.
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Apparently it wasn't as damaged as I was lead to believe to start with, so hopefully they'll be able to improve the functionality of it soon.
As mentioned elsewhere, the focus is still to get the automation etc. done, so it's a bit slow adding new sensors right now.
If a sensor is supported in the LCD UI, it'll get supported across the other UI's over time.
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Excellent news Lars.
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The newer first Alerts have voice and location alert and interconnect with their "one-link" network so if one alarm goes they all sound off and tell you what location the threat was in. Unfortunately none of the "one Link" models offer z-wave or Zigbee connectivity. To gin up a similar functionality via HA sounds too complicated and expensive.
the only one I found (which seems on its way out) is the First Alert OLCOMBOV SmartBridge Wireless Interconnected Smoke/Carbon Monoxide Combo Alarm with Voice and Location.... However it is unlikely "Smartbridge" can interface practically to Almond+. I hope this application will get some attention in the HA sphere soon. The announced Kidde RemoteLync is a device that caters to this discombobulation of devices and protocols.
Have I missed something practical out there?
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I don't know if the zwave ones also have voice alerts but with the zwave obviously you can be alerted by phone if you are away or in an area you can't hear it and they can be used, once completely supported, to trigger a number of actions such as flashing or color changing lights and siren activations.
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I have two of the smoke detectors and one of the smoke/co detectors. I have been using them for a couple of months so far and have had no issues with them losing connection with the Almond+. I have never seen them go into any other status except "okay" or "ok" depending on the UI that you are looking through. There has been a few instances where a push notification shows up for one of the Smoke detectors. I am not sure why because they have never sounded for any reason as of yet, at least while I was at home. I have since changed the names of the smoke detectors to include a number. For instance, smoke detector 1, smoke detector 2 and smoke/co. Now that the names are changed I should be able to see which one is sending out notifications.
The battery life has been outstanding in my opinion. I am a firefighter and strongly believe in changing 9 volt batteries on a regular basis, but now being able to monitor battery life by having a percentage readout I am not sure that I will be changing them so frequently. Just to clarify I know these detectors don't use 9 volts. When I put the AA batteries in for the first time they read either 99% or 100%, now they are reading about 95% after about 4 months. When they get down around 80% I will probably take them out and see what the multi-tester says they are at.
I want to run some tests by using the built in test button on the alarms to see if that sends out a push notification. I just haven't done that yet because the detectors freak out my dog and send her running scared around the house. I guess that is a good thing as she will likely wake us in the event of a fire or CO emergency.
Anyway it would be great to get the CO functionality working as right now my Smoke/CO only shows as a smoke alarm. As others have said it would be awesome if somehow you would be able to access the detectors siren to use for intrusion alarms or just so they all sound when one is activated.
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I have two of the smoke detectors and one of the smoke/co detectors. I have been using them for a couple of months so far and have had no issues with them losing connection with the Almond+. I have never seen them go into any other status except "okay" or "ok" depending on the UI that you are looking through. There has been a few instances where a push notification shows up for one of the Smoke detectors. I am not sure why because they have never sounded for any reason as of yet, at least while I was at home. I have since changed the names of the smoke detectors to include a number. For instance, smoke detector 1, smoke detector 2 and smoke/co. Now that the names are changed I should be able to see which one is sending out notifications.
The battery life has been outstanding in my opinion. I am a firefighter and strongly believe in changing 9 volt batteries on a regular basis, but now being able to monitor battery life by having a percentage readout I am not sure that I will be changing them so frequently. Just to clarify I know these detectors don't use 9 volts. When I put the AA batteries in for the first time they read either 99% or 100%, now they are reading about 95% after about 4 months. When they get down around 80% I will probably take them out and see what the multi-tester says they are at.
I want to run some tests by using the built in test button on the alarms to see if that sends out a push notification. I just haven't done that yet because the detectors freak out my dog and send her running scared around the house. I guess that is a good thing as she will likely wake us in the event of a fire or CO emergency.
Anyway it would be great to get the CO functionality working as right now my Smoke/CO only shows as a smoke alarm. As others have said it would be awesome if somehow you would be able to access the detectors siren to use for intrusion alarms or just so they all sound when one is activated.
If you do test yours let me know how it works. I tested the one I bought using smoke and since then the LCD UI is stuck on smoke detected.
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I have two ZCOMBO units which paired as expected. I also have two ZSMOKE units and neither of them will pair/include/etc. with Almond+. Has anyone been successful pairing the ZSMOKE unit?