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Securifi Products => Almond 3 => Topic started by: litzdog911 on November 27, 2016, 02:57:18 am
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How do you configure an Almond3 to work with Nest Thermostat and Nest Protect? I have both of those, but don't see anything obvious in the iPhone App to link to my Nest devices. The Securifi site talks about Nest and makes it sound quite easy ....
Almond works with Nest
Get started with Almond & Nest
Adding a Nest device to your Almond is as easy as 1-2-3
1. Request Almond to access your Nest Device
2. Accept the Nest privileges for access
3. Use the Nest generated pincode to finalize linking with Almond
Where do you actually perform those steps?
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You perform these steps from the webpage of the Almond, not within the app. It is pretty simple there. Go to the Devices tab, and it is one of the Add options.
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on the webpage of the actual almond device or on a webpage on a desktop or laptop view of an almond login page
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The local ip address of the almond device. the username and password are in I believe the settings tab on the lcd.
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@ Estebandito,
Please tap on Status-->Web Admin to find the URL and user credentials to login to the Web UI, ensure that any client device (Desktop or Laptop) is connected to the Almond's network and then under Devices-->Add Nest and proceed with the onscreen instructions.
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sorry I am still at a loss to find the devices tab/screen where I can add whether it is in the almond router itself, the app or connecting from my desktop. I am using iphone, pad and imac. I am pretty good with smart home stuff and this one is perplexing me. screenshots would be appreciated.
Thanks,steven
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also to be clear I have added the nest under devices. It just does not show up under nest's works with nest in the nest app settings. Will that happen? just cause the nest is added under the devices section does that automatically the almond is doing all the "works with nest" functions?
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@ Estebandito,
Please tap on Status-->Web Admin to find the URL and user credentials to login to the Web UI, ensure that any client device (Desktop or Laptop) is connected to the Almond's network and then under Devices-->Add Nest and proceed with the onscreen instructions.
Yes, that was easy! Here's the page you should see after you add your Nest thermostat and Nest Protect via the Almond3's web page ....
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Next question ...
Do I need to setup a "rule" or anything so that my Nest Thermostat knows I'm "home" when my phone connects to my home network?
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If you want it to do something different when you arrive home then yes. Example rule: "Litzdog911 cell phone connects to Almond 3, then turn thermostat to 70 degrees". Or something similar. Nest however should be doing this on its own to some degree (I don't have a nest but I know it is supposed to "learn" your routine) based on your history.
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Your nest should still use the motion sensor to figure out if someone is home or not. Personally I use the best apps wifi away assist feature instead of the rules. It easier to setup, and seems to override the motion sensor. I noticed my best shows me as away more now since using it since my cats were always tripping the motion sensor. Also I believe it will work better with multiple users, then the current rules do.
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I just linked a Nest account to my parents' Almond account and ran into an issue that, if I'm reading everything here correctly, I don't think there is a solution.
I want to be able to create rules so that if Almond is set to Away (however it is triggered), Nest switches to Away. If Almond is set to Home, Nest switches to Home. And vice versa.
It seems to me that Almond only recognizes Nest devices, and not the Nest home as a whole? I haven't found anywhere that suggest Almond can detect or control the Home/Away status of Nest. Is this correct?
Thanks.
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Your thermostat can be set to away using the Rules for the Almond it is on, and home as needed. Not sure what you mean otherwise.
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These are the options I have for "IF" and "THEN" in setting rules: I don't see Home/Away toggling in either.
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I apologize for the double post, but can anyone confirm my suspicion that Nest's home/away functions cannot be controlled or detected by Almond, or am I missing it somewhere? Are they plans to add that functionality?
Thank you.
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Doesn't look like it. From the first pic I'm wondering what the difference is between off, and off mode. I'm wondering if something changed with nest changing away mode to eco. I was thinking it did allow it at one point. I felt like I tried it, but didn't like the result, because I was thinking if I forgot to set my Almond to away mode the nest would never enter away itself.
Like I said in my other post since nest came out with the wifi away assist I haven't even looked at doing it another way. Since it came out my nest has been using away mode more now when I'm gone. Also on the days when I was up all night at work, and slept during the day my nest would go into away mode, and now it doesn't.
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Thanks for the reply. That's a good point about the switch to "Eco".
I tried wifi assist at home, but found that it was a big battery drain on my and my wife's phones. It also didn't seem to work consistently, but I didn't put too much effort into getting it to work well, so that may be on me.
In the case with my parents, however, my dad doesn't use a cell phone regularly, so wifi assist wouldn't work well. They have a Simplisafe alarm system, which works with Nest, so I was hoping that when they left and set their alarm to away, it would trigger Nest to switch to away, which could then trigger Almond to switch to away. Same thing when they returned home. Without this link between Nest and Almond's home/away toggle, I'll either have to get more creative with their setup, or some of that functionality will be lost. I was hoping I was just doing something wrong or it was a known bug with a fix coming soon.
Thanks again.