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Securifi Products => Almond+ => Topic started by: normr on September 26, 2014, 07:02:22 pm

Title: Wink items at Home Depot
Post by: normr on September 26, 2014, 07:02:22 pm
I saw that Home Depot is carrying a wireless hub called a Wink, that allows a lot of different items to connect to it, since I have an Almond+, I guess I don't need to buy their hub and I can just use the different items like the switches and so forth, is this correct?
Title: Re: Wink items at Home Depot
Post by: vansens on September 26, 2014, 07:30:35 pm
Hi,
I tried out the "Connected by TCP" light bulbs that you get in Canada Home Depots - they definitely do not work, as they only support JennNet-IP (http://www.jennic.com/products/protocol_stacks/jennet-ip). i even called the manufacturer of this bulb.
For any other peripherals, your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Wink items at Home Depot
Post by: LGNilsson on September 26, 2014, 11:50:07 pm
The GE/Wink bulbs work, but as I don't know what else they sell, it's a bit hard to know of something will work or not. If it's not ZigBee or Z-Wave, it will of course not work with the Almond+, as the Wink hub also supports some 433MHz sensors. We have a list of compatible devices here - http://wiki.securifi.com/index.php?title=List_of_compatible_sensors_-_Almond%2B_2014
Title: Re: Wink items at Home Depot
Post by: sorphin on September 27, 2014, 02:20:29 am
The GE/Wink bulbs work, but as I don't know what else they sell, it's a bit hard to know of something will work or not. If it's not ZigBee or Z-Wave, it will of course not work with the Almond+, as the Wink hub also supports some 433MHz sensors. We have a list of compatible devices here - http://wiki.securifi.com/index.php?title=List_of_compatible_sensors_-_Almond%2B_2014

The Leviton appliance modules (and lamp modules), and the switches, etc.. those are all in the 'wink' section at home depot.., FYI.
Title: Re: Wink items at Home Depot
Post by: joltdude on September 27, 2014, 06:21:54 am
A lot of Wink hardware is wifi enabled via an internal webserver/and software is linked from their cloud servers.  They use a device called the Electric Imp to provide these services and also to support transmission via image,  similar to timex data link watch for network configuration.  I have a lamp (non wink)  called OrbNext which uses this technology as well.  I see IFTTT  as one way the almond might link to these devices since the lamp supports it,  but direct access would be nice but not sure how doable it is..  Might be worth talking to people at Electric Imp and Wink re interoperability..  That said there are some generic control apps for electric Imp devices but configuration is tricky  and doesn't work out of the box.  That said the wink lightbulb are zigbee unlike most of their smart devices... Hence why the hub exists
Title: Re: Wink items at Home Depot
Post by: LGNilsson on September 27, 2014, 08:22:07 am
Considering we're one of their competitors, I highly doubt they'll be willing to talk to us.
On top of that, using a lot of third party services either requires royalty payments or something similar and we're not sure how many of you would be willing to pay for this kind of service.
We'd love to support everything under the sun, but it's simply not possible.
Title: Re: Wink items at Home Depot
Post by: joltdude on September 29, 2014, 10:11:06 am
You might not get support from Wink, but you might be able to get some leeway with the Electric Imp folks... who make a SD card/chipset that handle the wifi connectivity for some wink devices... they are very open source friendly... on that part of it...

https://electricimp.com/
https://electricimp.com/docs/
http://forums.electricimp.com/

Still think the better way to deal with these devices is integrating with  IFTTT
Title: Re: Wink items at Home Depot
Post by: LGNilsson on September 29, 2014, 10:47:40 am
We're still considering IFTTT, it's just not going to happen exactly right now as it's going to take some time to implement support for it and it'll only be after we've done our own automation.
Title: Re: Wink items at Home Depot
Post by: normr on October 07, 2014, 12:08:26 am
I bought a GE Link light bulb and have put it in a lamp but it doesn't show up on my Almond when I try to add it as a sensor, what am I doing wrong? Do I need to also buy the WINK Hub for them to work? Please post directions on how you got it working. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Wink items at Home Depot
Post by: felixdacat on October 07, 2014, 12:55:15 am
Here you go: http://wiki.securifi.com/index.php?title=GE/Wink_Link_bulbs
Title: Re: Wink items at Home Depot
Post by: rpr69 on October 09, 2014, 12:57:17 pm
You might not get support from Wink, but you might be able to get some leeway with the Electric Imp folks... who make a SD card/chipset that handle the wifi connectivity for some wink devices... they are very open source friendly... on that part of it...

https://electricimp.com/
https://electricimp.com/docs/
http://forums.electricimp.com/

Still think the better way to deal with these devices is integrating with  IFTTT

I have a rudimentary interface with IFTTT, using a custom perl script, a second machine, and Instapush. It's a bit complicated to setup, the beginnings of which I have documented here: http://wiki.securifi.com/index.php?title=Sensor_Values_to_Cloud_IoT_Service

The connection to Instapush is the problem, as it uses https, and Perl on the Almond+ does not have the necessary libraries, so I offloaded that to another server on my network which pushes to Instapush, which then pushes to IFTTT to send an SMS, for instance.