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Securifi Products => Almond+ => Topic started by: jwoldan on October 09, 2014, 07:39:58 pm

Title: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: jwoldan on October 09, 2014, 07:39:58 pm
I tried to set a WAN upstream bandwidth limit on the G2 QoS settings in OpenWRT on my Almond+, but it does not seem to have any effect.  Is this a known issue?  Are there plans to fix this feature?
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: LGNilsson on October 16, 2014, 03:32:20 am
It's not working properly, but we'll get this fixed once we've sorted out some more pressing issues.
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: jwoldan on October 18, 2014, 02:01:21 pm
Thank you for the reply, I'll keep an eye out for future updates.
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: jeffbax on October 28, 2014, 09:11:05 pm
It's not working properly, but we'll get this fixed once we've sorted out some more pressing issues.
Found this thread searching for some kind of guide for the QoS screen. Not exactly sure if this is impacting me or not… but curious of the priority for QoS in general.

We have multiple consoles in the house, and any time one is streaming video it completely kills the other's ability to play games without lag (despite the one streaming being on Wifi and the one gaming wired). I tried to set up QoS and it caused the other machine to get disconnected from games my roommate was trying to play (amusingly, while I was streaming). Really frustrating at the moment, but perhaps it's my own doing and I'm not understanding things right.

My setup is essentially setting WAN to 25000 down, 5000 up (pretty on target for our Comcast spec)

I then put the wired PS4 into Urgent (PQ7), and it apparently hosed everything else so I lowered them down. (PQ4, PQ3 for the rest of TCP/UDP traffic) - perhaps I'm doing this entirely wrong, and I should only put the one wired PS4 into any QoS tier? I'm just trying to make sure that one doesn't get hosed since it's the one that is likely to be gaming while the other room is streaming… but am struggling to find out if QoS is simply broken (like the webpage navigation links to WRT at all in Safari) or the problem this user is discussing is the only part broken for QoS and I'm just using it wrong.
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: Olithic on January 13, 2015, 08:04:21 pm
Is there an update to this thread?
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: LGNilsson on January 13, 2015, 09:29:23 pm
Afraid not
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: Karin on January 16, 2015, 06:36:41 pm
I'm surprised more people don't use QoS, it's so darn useful!  But, I get that it can be complicated to set up and that if you have enough bandwidth it becomes less of an issue.  As an example, I've put 50 concurrent users through a 2Mbps connection before and could only do so effectively with QoS prioritizing traffic.  Although I know this is not the typical usage for this home device.

But even for a home network, the idea of a single Steam download or large software update making FaceTime/Skype calls lag or chop up, even though I'm on a 25Mbps connection, just chews me up.  :P  So... here's another huge vote for QoS, which I know is still on the to-do list, and thanks again for everything you do for this awesome router!

This hasn't stopped me from trying to set it up though.  Lars says "it's not working properly", but I'm not sure if this means it's completely inoperable, or if the UI just isn't linked properly.  Barring any further insight from Lars or someone else at Securifi, has anyone else had any luck with the implementation as-is?

I can see it is affecting the traffic on my network, but I don't think priority rules are being applied.  My total upstream throughput seems to be determined by my lowest-priority rule.  That's about as far as I have gotten in my tests so far.

FWIW, I the easiest QoS implementation I've ever seen has been in Tomato, and the best performance I've seen has been in dd-wrt.
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: Karin on April 16, 2015, 10:44:34 pm
Is QoS any further along or higher up on the development priority list?

I don't mean to pester, I'm just curious since it's been three months since the last update.

Personally, I want a router with fantastic hardware (and you guys aced it) and decent router capabilities (and Almond+ is already very solid). QoS was included in the Kickstarter goals, and I'm dying for it to be implemented by you guys one day ;D Especially with VoIP and more and more media-heavy devices coming online competing for the same bandwidth.  Thanks!

If working QoS is still a ways off, and before I head down this road, is it technically sound for me to disable the built-in QoS and utilize packages I hear other OpenWRT implementations using, like "luci-app-qos"?  I'm experienced with Tomato and dd-wrt routers, not so much with OpenWRT yet.
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: LGNilsson on April 19, 2015, 11:53:20 pm
Not that I'm aware of, but I've passed on your feedback to the software team.
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: rkalt on April 27, 2015, 02:10:15 pm
Here's another vote for QoS.
Especially since the last firmware update (R072), I have problems during large downloads:
my internet radio begins to stutter, and other devices' network access (iPad etc.) get really slow
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: greggerca on May 01, 2015, 10:44:14 pm
Yes - another vote for QoS.
I notice that calls on our VoIP boxes (like the AT&T MicroCell) will drop or cut out when downloads start, or exactly when a lot of "chatty JavaScript" pages (e.g. Facebook) are loaded.

I set my parameters for QoS as best I could, but there's no detectable difference.

Can you install one of the OpenWRT QoS packages (and uninstall this one)?
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: Amritendu on May 02, 2015, 12:49:33 pm
QoS is surely a priority and is a feature requested by many. It would be added, but don't have a fixed timeline yet. Not too sure about external WRT packages, but will try and get an update from the developers on this.
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: greggerca on May 27, 2015, 11:11:06 am
Hi there,
Any reply on doing better QoS? Either in the new firmware just released or via an alternate package?

I would also like to explore just trying (for example) the AllJoyn OpenWRT package without screwing anything up royally. ;)

Although, QoS is a higher "priority" (heh...).

Thanks!
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: IrishRuman on May 31, 2015, 01:44:55 am
If they can get router functions down. Why don't they open it up to run dd-wrt
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: mr23 on May 31, 2015, 01:13:37 pm
QoS is surely a priority and is a feature requested by many. It would be added, but don't have a fixed timeline yet. Not too sure about external WRT packages, but will try and get an update from the developers on this.

Rather than the developers, can you ask the Product Manager ?
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: brycied00d on June 02, 2015, 04:12:21 pm
If they can get router functions down. Why don't they open it up to run dd-wrt

When this question has come up in the past, along with "Why are you running such an old version of OpenWrt", the answer is that it's what their SOC vendor supports (provides). They're hamstrung by the SOC (system-on-chip, the processor that's at the core of the Almond+) vendor not providing better low-level support.
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: mr23 on June 02, 2015, 08:27:48 pm
When this question has come up in the past, along with "Why are you running such an old version of OpenWrt", the answer is that it's what their SOC vendor supports (provides). They're hamstrung by the SOC (system-on-chip, the processor that's at the core of the Almond+) vendor not providing better low-level support.

Rumor has it there is a newer release of sw (3.4.x) for the chipset, but the Realtek manufacturer dissuaded Securifi against updating, and a newer WRT would be a large investment for Securifi to make. I would agree that other [promised] items should be prioritized higher.
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: Karin on December 01, 2015, 02:56:05 pm
I hope no one minds me bumping this old post, but it seemed the most relevant place to ask.

Since it's been 6 months I think since we last heard, what is the development priority / status on QoS on the Almond+?

The hardware is great, but this router functionality would go a long way to making the software one of the best too with all the features we already have.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: greggerca on February 08, 2016, 11:30:07 pm
Here's something I've figured out... G2 QoS for "WAN" affects your LAN throughput.
I doubt the way I had to configure it now helps prioritize VoIP WAN traffic...

I've been trying to diagnose a throughput problem to a file server / backup server... and I do NOT have LAN QoS enabled.
Anyhow, I disabled WAN QoS temporarily, and a large file transfer throughput went from a very steady 780 kB/s to 15 MB/s.

So, the problem now is... what happens to the VoIP stuff?

The only way I was able to keep QoS for WAN enabled was to adjust the Up / Down numbers to 1000000 (1Gbps basically), then set SP streams for different classes of traffic. I made a special "1000000" kbps rule between 2 file-share type computers (their MAC or IP address TO and FROM Any).

The other ones are below the Comcast up and down speeds.

Whatever.
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: lucasrangit on May 08, 2016, 01:48:52 pm
I would like to vote for adding QoS support in some form for VoIP calls. I imagine VoIP and video chat are more common with customer who live in smart homes. For example, I do not have a phone line and instead use my cell phone or the T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling feature. However, when streaming Netflix or downloading from another computer, my Wi-Fi calling drops due to insufficient bandwitdh. QoS would solve this problem. Please consider polling your customer base for how many of us use voice/video streaming at home. Thanks.
Title: Re: OpenWRT G2 QoS
Post by: Karin on November 11, 2016, 01:00:37 pm
Any hope for the long-promised QoS capabilities?